Linux Internet cafe management software

[adam lewis]

Good day Linux SA mailing list,

I am opening an food joint / schnapps bar / internet cafe just of Rundle St
and am having problems with internet OS software in that I can't afford it.
I do want to run Linux and not just because it is free, although that is
obviously part of it. The problem I am having is tracking down some Linux
internet cafe management software; has there never been a net cafe run on
Linux, I think there should be.

Any help in this would be greatly apreciated and there is crepes and
schnapps in it for anyone who can.

If this is the second time you have recieved this please accept my apologies
as I thought the first posting did not work.

Thanks, hoping to hear from y'all soon, Adam.


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[Toby Corkindale]

I actually helped a friend develop some net cafe software that runs on
Linux quite a while ago. It should still work fine though. You could use
Windows machines for the actual "user" machines though, just the rest of
it was Linux based. (Web interface).

Contact me offlist if you're interested in more details.

-Toby

Post by adam lewis
Good day Linux SA mailing list,
I am opening an food joint / schnapps bar / internet cafe just of Rundle St
and am having problems with internet OS software in that I can't afford it.
I do want to run Linux and not just because it is free, although that is
obviously part of it. The problem I am having is tracking down some Linux
internet cafe management software; has there never been a net cafe run on
Linux, I think there should be.
Any help in this would be greatly apreciated and there is crepes and
schnapps in it for anyone who can.
If this is the second time you have recieved this please accept my apologies
as I thought the first posting did not work.
Thanks, hoping to hear from y'all soon, Adam.
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[Michael Kratz]

You could use Windows machines for the actual "user" machines
though, just the rest of it was Linux based. (Web interface).

And if I could just jump in here with a suggestion for you Adam, if you do
intend to use Windows machines as the customer machines, make sure you get
to them with policy editor (and lock them down) before you let customers
loose, otherwise you'll quickly find broken machines, wrong settings, etc.
(on windows 9x its on the install cd [poledit], windows 2k and XP, click
start, click run, type "gpedit.msc")

Regards,

Michael

[nik [tm]]

Post by Michael Kratz

You could use Windows machines for the actual "user" machines
though, just the rest of it was Linux based. (Web interface).

And if I could just jump in here with a suggestion for you Adam, if you do
intend to use Windows machines as the customer machines, make sure you get
to them with policy editor (and lock them down) before you let customers

on that subject, a friend of mine who just setup a cafe in sydney (and a
member of this list) sent me a link to a pci card that would keep a hidden
partition used to boot the computer up. then you could let anyone use the
computer as it was there own, they can install anything and save to the hdd,
format it if they like and when it reboots it just loads it all from the
hidden partition as though nothing had been done..

its a pretty trick card, alas he sent the details to my work email and my
searches on the net have not been able to find out its name, and its late,
and my eyes are tired so Icant tell you what it is called or the link to the
website, but will send it in tomorrow morning when I get to work

it is a good alternative to poledit but at a price.

Regards
nik [tm]

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Post by Michael Kratz
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[Michael Selge]

Nik,

The card you are thinking of is called a " Reborn Card"
I've never used one, but have had sales reps trying to sell me one. I'd
think that it would be really usefull for Internet Cafes and the like as
even after Policy editing there is still a LOT of room for grief in that
sort of environment.

I know that Microarts distributes them in Aus
http://www.microbits.com.au/products/reborn/index.htm

Regards,

Michael

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 12 June 2002 1:58
To: Michael Kratz; LinuxSA
Subject: Re: Linux Internet cafe management software

Post by Michael Kratz

You could use Windows machines for the actual "user" machines
though, just the rest of it was Linux based. (Web interface).

And if I could just jump in here with a suggestion for you

Adam, if you do

Post by Michael Kratz
intend to use Windows machines as the customer machines,

make sure you get

Post by Michael Kratz
to them with policy editor (and lock them down) before you

let customers
on that subject, a friend of mine who just setup a cafe in
sydney (and a
member of this list) sent me a link to a pci card that would
keep a hidden
partition used to boot the computer up. then you could let
anyone use the
computer as it was there own, they can install anything and
save to the hdd,
format it if they like and when it reboots it just loads it
all from the
hidden partition as though nothing had been done..
its a pretty trick card, alas he sent the details to my work
email and my
searches on the net have not been able to find out its name,
and its late,
and my eyes are tired so Icant tell you what it is called or
the link to the
website, but will send it in tomorrow morning when I get to work
it is a good alternative to poledit but at a price.
Regards
nik [tm]
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Post by Michael Kratz
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[nik [tm]]

Thanks Michael,

thats a similar card to the one I couldnt remember, that is found at;
www.jungsoft.com

'the HDD Sheriff'

regards
nik [tm]

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Post by Michael Kratz
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[James Leone]

A potentially valuable resource for those who are in charge of a network
as a side job.

James Leone

Post by Michael Selge
Nik,
The card you are thinking of is called a " Reborn Card"
I've never used one, but have had sales reps trying to sell me one. I'd
think that it would be really usefull for Internet Cafes and the like as
even after Policy editing there is still a LOT of room for grief in that
sort of environment.
I know that Microarts distributes them in Aus
http://www.microbits.com.au/products/reborn/index.htm
Regards,
Michael

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 12 June 2002 1:58
To: Michael Kratz; LinuxSA
Subject: Re: Linux Internet cafe management software

Post by Michael Kratz

You could use Windows machines for the actual "user" machines
though, just the rest of it was Linux based. (Web interface).

And if I could just jump in here with a suggestion for you

Adam, if you do

Post by Michael Kratz
intend to use Windows machines as the customer machines,

make sure you get

Post by Michael Kratz
to them with policy editor (and lock them down) before you

let customers
on that subject, a friend of mine who just setup a cafe in
sydney (and a
member of this list) sent me a link to a pci card that would
keep a hidden
partition used to boot the computer up. then you could let
anyone use the
computer as it was there own, they can install anything and
save to the hdd,
format it if they like and when it reboots it just loads it
all from the
hidden partition as though nothing had been done..
its a pretty trick card, alas he sent the details to my work
email and my
searches on the net have not been able to find out its name,
and its late,
and my eyes are tired so Icant tell you what it is called or
the link to the
website, but will send it in tomorrow morning when I get to work
it is a good alternative to poledit but at a price.
Regards
nik [tm]
??????`??.????..><((((??>.??????`??.????.??????`??.??

Post by Michael Kratz
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[xfesty]

Norton's Ghost is always good as well, if all your client machines are
identical - just create an image on the server, and restore it via. boot
disk when one of the client machines gets rooted.

Gpedit is always good, in any circumstance.

- Ryan

Post by Michael Selge
Nik,
The card you are thinking of is called a " Reborn Card"
I've never used one, but have had sales reps trying to sell me one. I'd
think that it would be really usefull for Internet Cafes and the like as
even after Policy editing there is still a LOT of room for grief in that
sort of environment.
I know that Microarts distributes them in Aus
http://www.microbits.com.au/products/reborn/index.htm
Regards,
Michael

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, 12 June 2002 1:58
To: Michael Kratz; LinuxSA
Subject: Re: Linux Internet cafe management software

Post by Michael Kratz

You could use Windows machines for the actual "user" machines
though, just the rest of it was Linux based. (Web interface).

And if I could just jump in here with a suggestion for you

Adam, if you do

Post by Michael Kratz
intend to use Windows machines as the customer machines,

make sure you get

Post by Michael Kratz
to them with policy editor (and lock them down) before you

let customers
on that subject, a friend of mine who just setup a cafe in
sydney (and a
member of this list) sent me a link to a pci card that would
keep a hidden
partition used to boot the computer up. then you could let
anyone use the
computer as it was there own, they can install anything and
save to the hdd,
format it if they like and when it reboots it just loads it
all from the
hidden partition as though nothing had been done..
its a pretty trick card, alas he sent the details to my work
email and my
searches on the net have not been able to find out its name,
and its late,
and my eyes are tired so Icant tell you what it is called or
the link to the
website, but will send it in tomorrow morning when I get to work
it is a good alternative to poledit but at a price.
Regards
nik [tm]
??????`??.????..><((((??>.??????`??.????.??????`??.??

Post by Michael Kratz
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[Darryl Ross]

Post by xfesty
Norton's Ghost is always good as well, if all your client machines are
identical - just create an image on the server, and restore it via.
boot disk when one of the client machines gets rooted.

If you're going to go down the route of Norton Ghost, I really recommend
having a look at partimage (http://www.partimage.org/). Same
functionality, GPLed :)

We use it here to clone NT and 2000 machines quite successfully.

Darryl
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[James Leone]

Partimage looks awesome as well.

JL

Post by Darryl Ross

Post by xfesty
Norton's Ghost is always good as well, if all your client machines are
identical - just create an image on the server, and restore it via.
boot disk when one of the client machines gets rooted.

If you're going to go down the route of Norton Ghost, I really recommend
having a look at partimage (http://www.partimage.org/). Same
functionality, GPLed :)
We use it here to clone NT and 2000 machines quite successfully.
Darryl

[Richard Russell]

Post by xfesty
Norton's Ghost is always good as well, if all your client
machines are identical - just create an image on the server,
and restore it via. boot disk when one of the client machines
gets rooted.

Can be painfully slow, even when going from local HDD to local HDD...

Wouldn't want to do it regularly...

rr
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Post by Richard Russell

Post by xfesty
Norton's Ghost is always good as well, if all your client
machines are identical - just create an image on the server,
and restore it via. boot disk when one of the client machines
gets rooted.

Can be painfully slow, even when going from local HDD to local HDD...

What do you call painfully slow??

HDD -> HDD is quite fast, and as for network ghosting, we ghost via
multicast and/or direct TCP connection and it takes less than 10 minutes
on a 100mb Ethernet. Personally thats quite an acceptable setup time
for a PC....

Post by Richard Russell
Wouldn't want to do it regularly...

We do it all the time..............(best way to keep your Windoze
workstations clean & troublefree)